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Thinking of taking the plunge into the CFA exam…

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      @Rhino6187 To add to your rationale behind investment decisions, legendary value investor, Marty Whitman, describes financial statements and accounting as the “language of investing.”

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        Good decision @rhino6187! Best of luck!

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          Yay @rhino6187! I’m June 2013 but I’m sure we’ll both meet at June 2014 Level 2! 😀

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          Enjoy the time off @Rhino6187! We’ll see ya soon 🙂

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          In short, I say go for it. You’re young, you have a complementary background, and you have the right attitude. However, like I mentioned, I have seen a lot of analysts with just a CPA.

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            @sophie @DollarsToDonuts @Diya @Zee

            Alright…I’ve decided to go for it. I’m going to take about three or for weeks to settle into the new job (started yesterday, seems great thus far) and catch up on everything I was putting off during busy season with my firm. After that, I’ll being reviewing for CFA Level 1 December 2013.

            **Cracks knuckles, pours coffee, takes a deep breath, bids social life farewell for the next 24 months**

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              Good luck @rhino6187! Makes sense to put your new role first, and you have quite some time before Dec 2013 🙂

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              Best of luck to you good sir!

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                Good luck @rhino6187! You’ll have to tell us all about your new job when you’re back here 🙂

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                I think pursuing the CFA will be a worthwhile endeavor and one made slightly easier with your strong accounting background. It seems that you’re no stranger to busting your ass at work then studying for a designation, so I don’t see any problems with you coping with the CFA process.

                With that said, given your professional experience and the fact that you are a CPA, I think if you could move more into an analyst role, then the CFA may not be necessary. In my current role, I am responsible for researching equity managers, and it’s not uncommon for me to see CPA’s (without CFA designations) on these teams. From what I’ve seen, it is definitely possible for you to break into an associate role with just being a CPA.

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                Great @Rhino6187, let us know when you’d decided!

                And oh, having an accounting background works wonders for huge sections of Level 1 and 2, good ol’ Financial Reporting and Analysis (FRA)…

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                  @ Sophie @zee @dollartodonuts @sidmenon @hairyfairy

                  Thank you all for your best wishes. You all should see more of me starting early June once I dive in and start studying. In the meantime, best of luck to all of you!

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                    @Diya @Sophie @Zee @DollarstoDonuts

                    Thank you all for you insightful responses. It seems as though you all agree that given my objectives, this would be a beneficial move for my career. It is also encouraging that many of you said the CPA would provide a complimentary background. I’ve heard some people say it would not help whatsoever. However, as investment decisions are generally based on financial statements, and auditors understand the nuts and bolts of financial statements as well as anyone, I don’t see how it could hurt.

                    I will make a final decision by the end of this week. I want to go into my new gig on Monday already knowing for sure.

                    Diya- I like your quote about flipping a coin. I may end up taking that approach, although I think I already know which side I will want it to land on.

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                    @Rhino6187, it’s not that bad. You won’t have zero social life… you have us here 😉

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                      I would agree with @DollarsToDonuts. A CPA is a very useful qualification to have. It’s true that a CFA charter will be a very handy thing to have if you’d like to move to managing funds, but it’s not absolutely necessary.

                      But having said that, you’ve obviously done a lot of research on the CFA program so that already speaks about your drive and initiative. If you have the drive to do it, you should!

                      The question ‘should I do the CFA’ should be answered with ‘what am I giving up?’ And in this case the CFA exams takes up your time. If you have the drive and the time I say you should go for it – having a CFA charter would help.

                      When I first started working out of university, I wanted to take the CFA straightaway, but HR advised me not to take things too enthusiastically. That was, in retrospect, terrible advice. As far as the CFA is concerned, you should take it when you have the enthusiasm and drive for it!

                      If taking the CFA turned out to be a mistake/waste of time for whatever reason, the only thing you would have sacrificed was your weekends and some funding, unlike say if you were considering an MBA.

                      Just my thoughts 🙂

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                      Hi @Rhino6187, thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences with us.

                      Having a CPA is a strong asset, and would enable you to rise towards being a CFO eventually. I do agree with you that financial reporting and audit is quite dull, I’m glad you’re taking active steps to steer your career towards aspects of your interest.

                      That said, there’s usually 2 types of CFO, depending on industry. If it’s a slow moving one, CFO role tends to focus heavily on financial reporting / investor relations. If it’s a fast moving and dynamic sector, CFO plays an important role in M&A, strategy and operations too. I have seen both myself, and like you, I enjoy the latter type of work better.

                      I personally debated taking CFA vs. CIMA (management accounting) vs. MBA a few years ago when I was 25. CIMA looked interesting to me but still had some hardcore auditing and my main purpose was to broaden my future career options (but not be an accountant per se too). I chose CFA in the end as it had more relevance and a ‘better’ global recognition worldwide.

                      In your case, having a CPA at such a young age already puts you in strong position. However, if you’re keen at this stage of your career, and want an additional option to broaden your responsibilities in the REIT fund, I’d just say go for the CFA. There’s quite some knowledge overlap, you won’t cry in FRA section, and it’s a great CV enhancer in the fund management sector. Not much to lose here except 2 years worth of weekends…

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                      @Rhino187 everyone’s given very rational and logical reasoning for their opinion. Then all you have to do is decide and here is my philosophical take on the final decisoin

                      When faced with two choices, simply toss a coin. It works not because it settles the question for you, but because in that brief moment when the coin is in the air, you suddenly know what you are hoping for. -unknown

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